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consulate in ben benghazi have been arrested in libya. meanwhile, president obama has spoken with leaders following the violent protests there. now back to "hardball." >>> welcome back to "hardball." both mitt romney and barack obama are focusing a lot of their attention on three key states this november, obviously, ohio, florida, and virginia. romney is at a big disadvantage in all three states. here's the latest nbc news marist poll. florida like autovoters, that's. in ohio, the president has a seven-point lead. 50% to the 43%. and what could he do to turn things around? chuck todd and correspondent and gentlemen, i don't know what all of this means and what's going to happen and our polls were conducted and, hey, don't forget it's part of the bounce. >> the sugar high. >> which also tells me, the numbers are pretty right. where the race is right now. >> what's interesting -- >> it's still a high. >> this is a very rigid electorate. this is a big -- is this real? is this any less real that we've seen before. >> the fundamentals remain t
consulate in ben benghazi have been arrested in libya. meanwhile, president obama has spoken with leaders following the violent protests there. now back to "hardball." >>> welcome back to "hardball." both mitt romney and barack obama are focusing a lot of their attention on three key states this november, obviously, ohio, florida, and virginia. romney is at a big disadvantage in all three states. here's the latest nbc news marist poll. florida like autovoters,...
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that attack also taking place in benghazi. and then a week after that, islamist militants attacked another consulate in benghazi, the consulate of tunisia. so, yes, there is that video, this crude, anti-muslim video which is the latest anti-muslim provocation causing protests and riots around the world. we will talk more about that later. but what happened last night in libya does not seem to be the spontaneous outburst of a crowd that had its sensitivities offended by religious provocation. it does not seem to have been that kind of violence, at least at this early date. that angry religious mob phenomenon is part of the relevant context for understanding how an american ambassador was killed last night. but it may also be just as relevant to put it in context, put it in the context of other terrorist attacks, organized terrorist attack on other u.s. embassies, like in kenya and tanzania in 1998. obviously, this is not on the same scale, but this may have been the same kind of target. you saw the president and the vice presid
that attack also taking place in benghazi. and then a week after that, islamist militants attacked another consulate in benghazi, the consulate of tunisia. so, yes, there is that video, this crude, anti-muslim video which is the latest anti-muslim provocation causing protests and riots around the world. we will talk more about that later. but what happened last night in libya does not seem to be the spontaneous outburst of a crowd that had its sensitivities offended by religious provocation. it...
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diplomatic mission in benghazi. thousands of libyans staged counterprotests today in a show of o support for the united states. many of them held signs thanking ambassador stevens for his service, and the libyan government was quick and forceful in its condemnation of the attacks. that, at least, is the situation in libya. in egypt, the conditions are much different. more protests against the offending anti-muslim film have been called for tomorrow. there have been no statements by the transitional government in egypt, not about the protests or about the reaction to them. it's also worth noting that the president did not mention the protests in cairo or the breach of the u.s. embassy in his statement today, indicating the continued volatility of the situation on the ground in egypt. all this is what my "washington post" colleague david ignatius calls, quote, the fog of revolution. these are two countries transitioning from decades of existence under despottic conditions to governments with at least some foundations
diplomatic mission in benghazi. thousands of libyans staged counterprotests today in a show of o support for the united states. many of them held signs thanking ambassador stevens for his service, and the libyan government was quick and forceful in its condemnation of the attacks. that, at least, is the situation in libya. in egypt, the conditions are much different. more protests against the offending anti-muslim film have been called for tomorrow. there have been no statements by the...
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the attacks on the civilians in benghazi were attacks on america. we are grateful for the assistance we received from the libyan government and from the libyan people. there should be no doubt that we will be relentless in tracking down the killers and bringing them to justice. and i a aciatthn reayhe leaders of other countries in the region, including egypt, tunisia, and yemen have taken steps to secure our can diplomatic facilities and called r calm. and so have religious authoritiesro t e. but understand the attacks of the last two weeks are not simply an assault on america. they're ao an assault on the very idealupon which the united nations was found. thotthpl resolve their differences peacefully, that i did proceed massey can take the place of war, tha in an interdependent worl all of us have a stake in working towards greater opportunity d security for our citizens. if we are serious about upholding these ideals, it will not benough to put more guards in front of an embassy or to put out statements of regret and wait for the outrage to pass.
the attacks on the civilians in benghazi were attacks on america. we are grateful for the assistance we received from the libyan government and from the libyan people. there should be no doubt that we will be relentless in tracking down the killers and bringing them to justice. and i a aciatthn reayhe leaders of other countries in the region, including egypt, tunisia, and yemen have taken steps to secure our can diplomatic facilities and called r calm. and so have religious authoritiesro t e....
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first of all, we had no actionable intelligence to suggest that any attack on our facility in benghazi was imminent. in cairo, we did have indications that there was the risk that the video might spark some protests, and our embassy, in fact, acted accordingly, and had called upon the egyptian authorities to reinforce our facility. what we have seen with respect to the security response, obviously, we had security personnel in benghazi, a significant number, and tragically, among those four that were killed were two of our security personnel. but what happened, obviously, overwhelmed the security we had in place, which is why the president ordered additional reinforcements to tripoli and why elsewhere in the world we have been working with governments to ensure they take up their obligations to protect us and we reinforce where necessary. >> the president and secretary of state have talked about a mob mentality. that's my words, not their words, but they talked about the tyranny of mobs. operating in this part of the world. here is the reality. if you look at foreign aid, u.s. direct f
first of all, we had no actionable intelligence to suggest that any attack on our facility in benghazi was imminent. in cairo, we did have indications that there was the risk that the video might spark some protests, and our embassy, in fact, acted accordingly, and had called upon the egyptian authorities to reinforce our facility. what we have seen with respect to the security response, obviously, we had security personnel in benghazi, a significant number, and tragically, among those four...
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consulate in benghazi that killed four american citizens. the two confirmed thus far to be among the dead are shaun smith and air force veteran turned state department information management officer and ambassador chris stevens, one of america's finest and bravest foreign service officers. i didn't know shaun smith. i know he's a great american who served his country. but i had gotten to know chris stevens quite well. and in ambassador chris stevens' death, the libyan people have lost someone in their democratic revolution. the american people have lost a selfless and dedicated servant of our interests and values and i have lost a friend. my thoughts and prayers today are with chris's family and the loved ones of his fallen colleagues. may god grant them comfort in their time of grieve. one of my most memorable meetings with chris stevens was last april. as u.s. eninvoice to the libyan opposition, he had traveled to benghazi at great personal risk to represent the country that he loved so much. it was clear that there was no where that chris
consulate in benghazi that killed four american citizens. the two confirmed thus far to be among the dead are shaun smith and air force veteran turned state department information management officer and ambassador chris stevens, one of america's finest and bravest foreign service officers. i didn't know shaun smith. i know he's a great american who served his country. but i had gotten to know chris stevens quite well. and in ambassador chris stevens' death, the libyan people have lost someone...
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no matter how many troops we have in benghazi, you can't fire across the crowd. you can't do that. and yet they think, he's talking about all we need are hired forced levels to deal with these very tricky ethnic and religious situations stirred up by some crazies out in california. >> people called colin powell too far to the right in terms of what he thought should be the american foreign policy. part of his policy, is he wants to expand the military troops to 100,000 and that plays really well in a state like virginia where there's a big military population. but americans are weary of war at this point, we already experienced a time where we did have two large land wars going into at the same time. he's going up against a different reality in terms of what america wants, and he has these neocons that are surrounding him. americans have since turned against and judged to be a war that was not worth fighting. >> one of the questions everybody in this business seems to have in journalism is what's going on with romney in the day that things happened? that moment when something happe
no matter how many troops we have in benghazi, you can't fire across the crowd. you can't do that. and yet they think, he's talking about all we need are hired forced levels to deal with these very tricky ethnic and religious situations stirred up by some crazies out in california. >> people called colin powell too far to the right in terms of what he thought should be the american foreign policy. part of his policy, is he wants to expand the military troops to 100,000 and that plays...
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in the streets, many people, today in 2012 six years after we have moderates going in the streets in benghazi and in tripoli and in cairo and saying to the extremists, stop here. you don't ta in m na doalur name. we're against the bloodshed. we're against what you did to ambassador stevens and for the first time there's a real debate in the arab world and moderates are speaking up. theye not shying away from it and so aggressive about it. >> that's enag usathe point that freedman went on to make in the column, he cited op-eds from the region advocating of no violence and pushing back what the extreme tactics. oild ambassador stevens that were not the mobs. it was a deliberate attack of some group that is linked with al qaeda and that was a very planned, well organized and rried attack. i mean, you don't go to a demonstration with 7 and eavy weaponry. they were very well organized and they orchestrated the whole thing around the mobs but has nothing to do with the move vi, actually. >> that's clear and unfortunately it's not been the position of the administrion thus far. >> all right. >> thin
in the streets, many people, today in 2012 six years after we have moderates going in the streets in benghazi and in tripoli and in cairo and saying to the extremists, stop here. you don't ta in m na doalur name. we're against the bloodshed. we're against what you did to ambassador stevens and for the first time there's a real debate in the arab world and moderates are speaking up. theye not shying away from it and so aggressive about it. >> that's enag usathe point that freedman went on...
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embassies have been on alert following the attack in ben benghazi. the west nile outbreak will be the worst since the virus was founded in 1999. and apple unveiled the highly anticipated iphone 5. it's thinner, bigger, and has a larger screen. now back to "hardball." >>> welcome back to "hardball." cleveland and cincinnati are at the center of the universe as ohio is a critical force in the election. it's hard to see how mitt romney can win the election without taking ohio where he's trailing right now. it's not just hot at the national level. and this race is being watched as democrats try and keep hold of the u.s. senator, i've always looked at you as a perfect hit for ohio. you seem like an ohio democrat. i can't believe you're getting challenged but i guess everyone has to worry about the self-financers that come along with a lot of big bucks trying to buy it at the last minute. what does this race look like right now? >> any reporter would tell you that this is not a race if it were not for the outside groups sort of directed -- the bands direct
embassies have been on alert following the attack in ben benghazi. the west nile outbreak will be the worst since the virus was founded in 1999. and apple unveiled the highly anticipated iphone 5. it's thinner, bigger, and has a larger screen. now back to "hardball." >>> welcome back to "hardball." cleveland and cincinnati are at the center of the universe as ohio is a critical force in the election. it's hard to see how mitt romney can win the election without...
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getting killed basically in the line of duty, trying to defend people in his consulate in benghazi. on top of that, and distracting sadly from it, is this side show. explain how you put it together, all that happened today. >> first of all, i want to say to the families of the four americans who died, this is a very tough day because we need our diplomats out there to be safe, being able to perform their job. the arab spring reaction on the u.s. side is going to involve the u.s. military in some cases but very few, mostly diplomatic efforts. it's a very tough day for america. in that context, i think governor romney has every right and obligation to criticize the current administration's foreign policy. but to go off without knowing all the facts and to go off at a time when -- if he had something helpful to say, he could have said it privately to the white house. i think it's a mistake politically. in the long run i think it's a mistake politically. it does cut him off from most republicans on capitol hill, as howard said, who have not been outspoken. i think it's the wrong thing t
getting killed basically in the line of duty, trying to defend people in his consulate in benghazi. on top of that, and distracting sadly from it, is this side show. explain how you put it together, all that happened today. >> first of all, i want to say to the families of the four americans who died, this is a very tough day because we need our diplomats out there to be safe, being able to perform their job. the arab spring reaction on the u.s. side is going to involve the u.s. military...
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. >>> murder in benghazi. president obama vows justice will be done after the horrific killing of the u.s. ambassador to libya. >>> money out the window. bank robbery suspects hurl cash during a high-speed police chase. >>> baby guz. what duchess kate has been turning down sparking pregnancy rumors. >>> good morning. i'm mara schiavocampo. this is "first look" on msnbc. >>> we begin this morning with firing back. in response to deadly attacks in libya that killed a u.s. ambassador and three diplomats, an elite group of marines has been sent to ramp up security in libya's capital. this as the obama administration responds to criticism from republican rival mitt romney while investigating whether the attacks were specifically coordinated to take place on the anniversary of 9/11. nbc's tracie potts has more from washington. good morning. >> reporter: march rarks here on capitol hill, the senate approved a resolution honoring the victims and calling this attack unacceptable and unjust find. a nation in mourning as
. >>> murder in benghazi. president obama vows justice will be done after the horrific killing of the u.s. ambassador to libya. >>> money out the window. bank robbery suspects hurl cash during a high-speed police chase. >>> baby guz. what duchess kate has been turning down sparking pregnancy rumors. >>> good morning. i'm mara schiavocampo. this is "first look" on msnbc. >>> we begin this morning with firing back. in response to deadly...
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finally, the investigation continues into the attack on benghazi. the u.s. and fbi cooperating. there's new video of libyans who apparently tried to rescue ambassador chris stevens but was frustrated because there was no ambulances around or first aid. they took him in a private car. >>> thanks so much. here's a look at other news going on around america today. in dallas, just frightening video here. it shows the moment when two women were struck by a hit and run driver who then drove an embankment to escape. the victims had pulled over on a highway off ramp because of a flat tire. police were responding to that call when the hit and run happened in front of them. the other driver remains on the loose. >>> in georgia, an even more bizarre hit and run. someone plowed into a house in the middle of the night when two people were inside asleep. they didn't know it happened until they woke up and found a chunk of their house completely wiped out. >>> in oregon, rescuers did a perfect job of saving a kitten. it was trapped beneath a basement in that drain pipe. it took firefighters an
finally, the investigation continues into the attack on benghazi. the u.s. and fbi cooperating. there's new video of libyans who apparently tried to rescue ambassador chris stevens but was frustrated because there was no ambulances around or first aid. they took him in a private car. >>> thanks so much. here's a look at other news going on around america today. in dallas, just frightening video here. it shows the moment when two women were struck by a hit and run driver who then drove...
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so far fbi investigators have not made it to benghazi as of yet. alex? >> nbc's ayman mohyeldin in benghazi. >>> month by month, the fed's new rescue plan for the economy. who's it supposed to help and when? you're watching "weekends with alex witt." ♪ [ acoustic guitar: slow ] [ barks ] ♪ [ upbeat ] [ barks ] beneful playful life is made with energy-packed wholesome grains... and real beef and egg. to help you put more play in your day. olaf's pizza palace gets the most rewards of any small business credit card! pizza!!!!! [ garth ] olaf's small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase, every day! put it on my spark card! [ high-pitched ] nice doin' business with you! [ garth ] why settle for less? great businesses deserve the most rewards! awesome!!! [ male announcer ] the spark business card from capital one. choose unlimited rewards with 2% cash back or double miles on every purchase, every day! what's in your wallet? >>> the instability in the middle east won't help us any at the gas pumps. as of today paying an average of $3.86 a gallon re
so far fbi investigators have not made it to benghazi as of yet. alex? >> nbc's ayman mohyeldin in benghazi. >>> month by month, the fed's new rescue plan for the economy. who's it supposed to help and when? you're watching "weekends with alex witt." ♪ [ acoustic guitar: slow ] [ barks ] ♪ [ upbeat ] [ barks ] beneful playful life is made with energy-packed wholesome grains... and real beef and egg. to help you put more play in your day. olaf's pizza palace gets the...
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what about this letter that you have sent asking for answers about what went wrong in benghazi? >> well i have the letter here with me. i could show it to you. i wouldn't change anything. let me be crystal clear as chairman of that committee, and i hope this gets out to other people who are listening about this. >> and i should point out i've got the letter here too. we've gone through it. >> republicans are working overtime to try to exploit a very normal, run of the course, admin strative letter that we agreed to on a bipartisan basis in our committee, simply to get some additional questions put in front of the state department that are part of their already existing investigation. this is not a challenge. it is nothing new. it is not something out of the ordinary. and i agreed to do it as a matter of bipartisanship because we thought these were important questions that people ought to be examining. >> but aren't you concerned, senator? >> secretary of state -- >> aren't you concerned with the way they handled this? >> i am concerned with the way the republicans are exploiting
what about this letter that you have sent asking for answers about what went wrong in benghazi? >> well i have the letter here with me. i could show it to you. i wouldn't change anything. let me be crystal clear as chairman of that committee, and i hope this gets out to other people who are listening about this. >> and i should point out i've got the letter here too. we've gone through it. >> republicans are working overtime to try to exploit a very normal, run of the course,...
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-- when he said bump in the road, did he mean not to draw a parallel or not to define that event in benghazi? >> i appreciate the question, ann, because that assertion is both desperate and offensively. >> -- offensive. >> this, of course, teeing up the fact that the president is heading this way for the un, giving his big speech tomorrow at the u.n., then not meeting with any of the other foreign leaders, not with president morsi, not later this week, not returning to new york, says his schedule doesn't permit that. not meeting with benjamin netanyahu, he is going on "the view," the ladieies of the view have the president of the united states. that has caused a ruckus. >> i would say, no matter what jay carney just said from the podium there, i would guarantee you the president would like to have the phrase "bump in the road" back. i think understands that politically when talking ate the deaths not just of the ambassador but three other americans isn't going to be the best thing either politically or just a human perspective. i would say, though, i think it's easy to forget this, but i wou
-- when he said bump in the road, did he mean not to draw a parallel or not to define that event in benghazi? >> i appreciate the question, ann, because that assertion is both desperate and offensively. >> -- offensive. >> this, of course, teeing up the fact that the president is heading this way for the un, giving his big speech tomorrow at the u.n., then not meeting with any of the other foreign leaders, not with president morsi, not later this week, not returning to new...
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what more you can tell us about what happened in benghazi? >> reporter: first what's happening here, a much calmer situation today. lots of security force, protecting the embassy compound. just a few dozen protesters here today. what we know is that the white house has confirmed that the u.s. ambassador was at the benghazi consulate, killed when that consulate came under attack along with three other americans. those americans have not yet been identified. andrea mitchell says at lease one of them was another diplomat. the other two identities have not been released pending next of kin notification. all of this began after a video which we've talked about, ap sb apenter an internet movie that perhaps no one would ever have noticed except an egyptian cleric noticed it, me ade it a rallying cry, and then there was a rumor mill that began when reports cairo that this was a big hollywood movie that was going to be broadcast nationwide on the anniversary of 9/11. so people were told this movie which almost no one here has seen was offensive and is
what more you can tell us about what happened in benghazi? >> reporter: first what's happening here, a much calmer situation today. lots of security force, protecting the embassy compound. just a few dozen protesters here today. what we know is that the white house has confirmed that the u.s. ambassador was at the benghazi consulate, killed when that consulate came under attack along with three other americans. those americans have not yet been identified. andrea mitchell says at lease...
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i watched hillary clinton today honoring ambassador chris stevens and three others killed in benghazi. what a contrast with the rat tea politics being played on the other side, this dirt ball attack that never seems to end on this president's birth, painting him as the other, someone that pals around with terrorists, who sympathizes with the attackers, who gets his policies from overseas. i would like to hope when they have to judge a president in
i watched hillary clinton today honoring ambassador chris stevens and three others killed in benghazi. what a contrast with the rat tea politics being played on the other side, this dirt ball attack that never seems to end on this president's birth, painting him as the other, someone that pals around with terrorists, who sympathizes with the attackers, who gets his policies from overseas. i would like to hope when they have to judge a president in
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today out at andrews air force base honoring ambassador chris stevens and the three others killed in benghazi. that moving scene is america at our best, honoring our fellow citizens, especially those who serve our country. as individuals, and public servants. worthy of personal reverence. what a contrast with the rattie politics played on the other side. the dirt ball attack that never seems to end of this president's birth, painting him as the other. someone that pals around with terrorists, who sympathizes with the attackers, who gets his politics from overseas. i would like to hope when they have to judge a president holding up our country's honor and saluting the troops as individuals, n
today out at andrews air force base honoring ambassador chris stevens and the three others killed in benghazi. that moving scene is america at our best, honoring our fellow citizens, especially those who serve our country. as individuals, and public servants. worthy of personal reverence. what a contrast with the rattie politics played on the other side. the dirt ball attack that never seems to end of this president's birth, painting him as the other. someone that pals around with terrorists,...
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according to a report, an american at benghazi, libyan is dead after an attack by armed mob. so far this has not been confirmed by nbc news. back to "hardball ". >>> when congressman ryan looked into that tv camera and attacked president obama's medicare savings as, quote, the biggest, he stopped to slide into depression, we made the long road to recovery and we've got the building blocks of a modern, new, different economy. that was former president bill clinton campaigning for president obama today. fresh off his show-stopping performance at the democratic convention, the big dogs out on the campaign trail. tomorrow he's in orlando and the new york times report potential trips down the road to ohio, wisconsin, iowa, nevada and new hampshire. joanne reed is managing editor of rio.com. here's president obama paying tribute to his new best surrogate. >> president clinton made the case in the way only he can. you know, somebody -- somebody e-mailed me after his speech and said, you need to appoint him secretary of explaining stuff. >> joy-ann, there you have it. he not only has
according to a report, an american at benghazi, libyan is dead after an attack by armed mob. so far this has not been confirmed by nbc news. back to "hardball ". >>> when congressman ryan looked into that tv camera and attacked president obama's medicare savings as, quote, the biggest, he stopped to slide into depression, we made the long road to recovery and we've got the building blocks of a modern, new, different economy. that was former president bill clinton campaigning...
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the consulate in benghazi was a temporary facility. it had security, some standoff, but it was pretty limited. it's not a place where you could fight off an attacking army, and that's what they were facing. they had people with firing rpgs into the compound. in egypt, talking to embassy people last night on the phone, you had protesters climbing the walls that surround the embassy. they were screaming to the egyptian police, do something. get these people out of here. and the police are saying well, it's very dangerous. we're not sure this is the right time. finally, thank goodness, the egyptian police did crack down. but these places are vulnerable. the people who serve in them deserve our great respect and thanks for being in sometimes free fire zones representing the united states. >> let me ask you, against the backdrop of all of this, you have the president not meeting with bebe netanyahu which, of course, causes great concern in israel and also, of course, makes one wonder whether -- whether israelis are preparing to possibly lau
the consulate in benghazi was a temporary facility. it had security, some standoff, but it was pretty limited. it's not a place where you could fight off an attacking army, and that's what they were facing. they had people with firing rpgs into the compound. in egypt, talking to embassy people last night on the phone, you had protesters climbing the walls that surround the embassy. they were screaming to the egyptian police, do something. get these people out of here. and the police are saying...
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. >> reporter: since the benghazi traj tragedy, your opponent has attacked you as being weak on national defense and weak on foreign policy. he said you need to be more aggressive in iran, you haven't done enough to support the revolt in syria and that our friends don't know where we stand and our enemies think we're weak. >> well, let's see what i've done since i've came into office. i said i'd end the war in iraq. i did. i said that we'd go after al qaeda. they have been decimated in the fatah. that we'd go after bin laden. he's gone. so i've executed on my foreign policy, and it's one that the american people largely agree with. you know, if governor romney is suggesting that we should start another war, he should say so. >> we're going to get to iran as well. the candidates were asked about that. but quickly, richard, on this question, explain the fine line the president is walking here, answering it. >> well, the president is out there defending his record. can i make a slightly related point on foreign policy? what's interesting to me is there's an area of overlap. the president go
. >> reporter: since the benghazi traj tragedy, your opponent has attacked you as being weak on national defense and weak on foreign policy. he said you need to be more aggressive in iran, you haven't done enough to support the revolt in syria and that our friends don't know where we stand and our enemies think we're weak. >> well, let's see what i've done since i've came into office. i said i'd end the war in iraq. i did. i said that we'd go after al qaeda. they have been decimated...
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when we watched what happened at benghazi and the embassies around the world, the question is why does that small group of muslims, radical muslims, hate sinus >> they want power. i think it's really a struggle for power, something that's going on in nearly every country across the region. in libya, you have a huge number of people who are out with signs professing their support for not just chris stevens who lost his life, you know, supporting peace and our relationship, but you have them saying, look, we apologize. same thing in several other countries. many of the leaders have expressed the same sentiments. and so i think we need to understand that as our country has local dynamics, these countries have local dynamics, too. and you have an emerging democratic movement. you also have these old regime loyalists, soccer thugs in the case of egypt, and even these, you know, more religious extreme elements where they're jockeying for power. >> what is it about america? why do they attack so violently, these groups? >> america is a symbol, right? america is a symbol. look who's keeping it
when we watched what happened at benghazi and the embassies around the world, the question is why does that small group of muslims, radical muslims, hate sinus >> they want power. i think it's really a struggle for power, something that's going on in nearly every country across the region. in libya, you have a huge number of people who are out with signs professing their support for not just chris stevens who lost his life, you know, supporting peace and our relationship, but you have...